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why the heck would they send susan rice around to fife news stations? what point is there? even if she had half the information or if she had all the information, it's all politics now and it looks like the professional operation, peter king, i give you the last word on this, has broken down. >> it has, the whole intelligence operation, what susan rice did, what the justice department was distort the information they had been given. it would take a way from the issue that that consulate was not properly protected. that should have been protected much more strongly than it was. the failure by the administration, but it's reflective as vanessa williams said, he's talking about iraq, he's talking about iran, he's talking about syria and libya. and our closest ally, israel. >> has the security apparatus broken down elsewhere? that is an important question. i mean we're not going to know, they're not going to investigate themselves. nobody in the white house wants to tell the truth about anything right now related to this. but in your judgment, having served there, having served
why the heck would they send susan rice around to fife news stations? what point is there? even if she had half the information or if she had all the information, it's all politics now and it looks like the professional operation, peter king, i give you the last word on this, has broken down. >> it has, the whole intelligence operation, what susan rice did, what the justice department was distort the information they had been given. it would take a way from the issue that that consulate...
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was susan rice that went out and did the talk show rounds. you might say why wasn't it hillary clinton. the man who died worked for her. she is the secretary of state. does that add to the intrigue here as to why the ultimate person in charge wasn't going out? >> well, i think susan rice kind of got the short straw here. i mean, there are a lot of people -- first of all, hillary clinton -- i think our own candy crowley can attest that hillary clinton doesn't do talk shows very often. and certainly in an instance like this, i think hillary clinton has been doing this a really long time, and knows what it looks like at first blush is not what it ends up being true even the next day or in the end. it was caution on her part she wasn't the one and there are those who think she was put in a bad position. >> thank you very much. "outfront" tonight, the chairman of the house intelligence committee and good to see you. appreciate you're taking the time. obviously, now hearing as elyse has been able to confirm there were a decision made. and given to
was susan rice that went out and did the talk show rounds. you might say why wasn't it hillary clinton. the man who died worked for her. she is the secretary of state. does that add to the intrigue here as to why the ultimate person in charge wasn't going out? >> well, i think susan rice kind of got the short straw here. i mean, there are a lot of people -- first of all, hillary clinton -- i think our own candy crowley can attest that hillary clinton doesn't do talk shows very often. and...
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the question is why did they send susan rice out? why i was it necessary for her to go out on five shows and say it was spontaneous. why not saying we have an ongoing investigation. i'm not going to say more. we're going to learn more. >> secretary clinton believes that ambassador rice has done a superb job. let's just start that. we completely reject calls here in this building. >> at a time when most americans would want to rally around our country at the death of four americans serving our country, instead we've had this bizarre response, which only leads to me believe there was, number one, there was gross negligence involved, or the president doesn't want us to realize libya may be a failed state in the fbi agents can't even make into banghazi. >> i watched the presentation. i thought it was amazing that someone in her position would go on with that degree of certainty, that fast, and that authoritatively and be that wrong. >> did you know the chairman of the homeland security committee has asked for susan rice to resign? does t
the question is why did they send susan rice out? why i was it necessary for her to go out on five shows and say it was spontaneous. why not saying we have an ongoing investigation. i'm not going to say more. we're going to learn more. >> secretary clinton believes that ambassador rice has done a superb job. let's just start that. we completely reject calls here in this building. >> at a time when most americans would want to rally around our country at the death of four americans...
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susan rice knew and she went on national tv saying otherwise. president obama may well have known and we ask tonight why shouldent susan rice resign and why shouldn't hillary clinton resign and why doesn't the buck stop with obama himself? this evening, with 1.3% gdp collapsing business investment and a contraction in chicago fed manufacturing, our question is, is this a stall speed speed recovery or are the signs out there that we are going back in to recession? in in addition, want a clue to what balm's patriotic policies are? look at a france. today france instituted a 75% tax rate for millions. more taxes and spending is coming here and i will show you how. first up, 17 days since our ambassador and three american heros were murdered by terrorists in benghazi. the obama white house is chajing their story again tonight. listen to what susan rice told the sunday shows two weeks ago, that a was five days after the attack. >> what happened in benghazi is in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had transpired hours before in cairo. >> we
susan rice knew and she went on national tv saying otherwise. president obama may well have known and we ask tonight why shouldent susan rice resign and why shouldn't hillary clinton resign and why doesn't the buck stop with obama himself? this evening, with 1.3% gdp collapsing business investment and a contraction in chicago fed manufacturing, our question is, is this a stall speed speed recovery or are the signs out there that we are going back in to recession? in in addition, want a clue to...
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remember, you had susan rice and others, not just susan rice, who were suggesting that the consulate was as well secured as it could have been. not only the security contractors on the ground to provide security for ambassador and the building itself, but many members of it that made it sound like a big team. it appears that is not case. we learned two other things to present additional problems. we heard about the telephone intercept between al-qaeda linked groups about the attac attack. we know the phone call took place after the attack and the administration had access it to quickly after the attack. so the question is if they knew that, if they had access to that administration to zo quickly after the attack why wasn't it shared with the american people? finally we have the commander, the top general in africa who oversees this, carter hamm, told reporters in july that the united states hasn't done enough to degrade the growing threat from al-qaeda and he was saying it in july. should have been raising alarm bells in washington at the time. >> bret: juan. you know, we here at fox
remember, you had susan rice and others, not just susan rice, who were suggesting that the consulate was as well secured as it could have been. not only the security contractors on the ground to provide security for ambassador and the building itself, but many members of it that made it sound like a big team. it appears that is not case. we learned two other things to present additional problems. we heard about the telephone intercept between al-qaeda linked groups about the attac attack. we...
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now some senators are demanding ambassador susan rice say why, she said it wasn't. what did the white house know and when did it know it? >>> plus, a new survey from ceos, does the pessimism spell trouble for president obama and maybe the rest of us also? president obama and mitt romney meanwhile battling it out in the swing state of ohio. john harwood joins us now with all the details. good evening, john. >> good evening, larry. you know, in the wake of that 47% video last week, mitt romney's got a new message and that's to tell middle class people as well as the poor that he cares about them. he did it on the stump in ohio today, he also did it in an interview with our nbc colleague ron allen just a few minutes ago. here's mitt romney. >> i served as a pastor of a congregation with people of all different backgrounds and economic circumstances that i care very deeply about the american people and people of different socioeconomic circumstances. and i think throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i've got ever
now some senators are demanding ambassador susan rice say why, she said it wasn't. what did the white house know and when did it know it? >>> plus, a new survey from ceos, does the pessimism spell trouble for president obama and maybe the rest of us also? president obama and mitt romney meanwhile battling it out in the swing state of ohio. john harwood joins us now with all the details. good evening, john. >> good evening, larry. you know, in the wake of that 47% video last week,...
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the benghazi catastrophe the president went to las vegas and then sent susan rice really telling lies across the board. i know this is an economics debate. leadership, a choice between economic systems. growth versus redistribution. get the tax cuts out there. i want the tax cuts. >> we were just talking to john taylor. i asked whether or not he believed romney was being specific enough about the economic plan because thought is the knock he has been getting and professor taylor said he has been extremely specific. do you think this campaign can gain traction and win this thing if they believe they are specific enough with their plans. >> john taylor is a great american and one of my heroes and mentors. i don't think they are quite as specific as they could. you know how to sell something. you want to sell something. if one of your great panelists has a stock or a position or an idea you got to sell it. not just once. you don't whisper it. covering several shows. you have to sell the thing. second point talk about middle class take home pay going up. joe biden was up. the middle class
the benghazi catastrophe the president went to las vegas and then sent susan rice really telling lies across the board. i know this is an economics debate. leadership, a choice between economic systems. growth versus redistribution. get the tax cuts out there. i want the tax cuts. >> we were just talking to john taylor. i asked whether or not he believed romney was being specific enough about the economic plan because thought is the knock he has been getting and professor taylor said he...
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some call for susan rice, ambassador to be fired over this. i think whoever told her or failed to tell her the truth should look at being fired. >> andrea: if you watch sunday shows you saw david axelrod again. they are stepping all over the story. every time they send someone from the administration out, they contradict what someone else said before. david axelrod said the first day this happened the president said it was a terrorist attack. then david plouffe says later in the days after, it wasn't clear that the attack was an attack of terror. by the way, senator corker, he questions why f.b.i. agents haven't been able to get to that country. their excuse is it's too unsafe and bad news on the ground. why did we not know that earlier and why didn't ambassadorsteins have protection? >> dana: when you -- you have been following this, i know very closely. >> greg: absolutely. all i've been thinking about it. >> dana: is everything clear as mud at this point? gues >> greg: billy carter handled it better. you remember his fray in politics into l
some call for susan rice, ambassador to be fired over this. i think whoever told her or failed to tell her the truth should look at being fired. >> andrea: if you watch sunday shows you saw david axelrod again. they are stepping all over the story. every time they send someone from the administration out, they contradict what someone else said before. david axelrod said the first day this happened the president said it was a terrorist attack. then david plouffe says later in the days...
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they deceived the country, sending susan rice out on the sunday shows and attending that this was the outcrop -- outgrowth of a demonstration. everybody over the age of nine could see that it was premeditated. that is why it was ppressed until it could no longer be suppressed. >> i am not aware of the conspiracy that charles has his own strange and wonderful sources -- >> how do you explain her -- >> i am going to try to explain my moderator's question about this. the problems were pulle -- the problem republicans have is that mitt romney has never c cracked the threshold of being a possible commander in chief. it does punish the obama record, and there's no question that osama bin laden took the wind out of the cells of the republican candidates. it was an enormous credential for obama. but because romney chose paul ryan, he in no way filled out the emptiness of his own resume in foreign policy. for that reason, he has not been able to exploit what should be an advantage. >> can you explain why susan rice insisted that the attack the embassy was the result of a demonstration? >> it i
they deceived the country, sending susan rice out on the sunday shows and attending that this was the outcrop -- outgrowth of a demonstration. everybody over the age of nine could see that it was premeditated. that is why it was ppressed until it could no longer be suppressed. >> i am not aware of the conspiracy that charles has his own strange and wonderful sources -- >> how do you explain her -- >> i am going to try to explain my moderator's question about this. the problems...
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. >> it's susan rice. >> sean: it's hillary clinton. >> let's go to susan rice. five days after this terrorist attack, she is booked on five national news shows and goes out and uses the exact terminology, spontaneous, not premeditated, not preplanned at all. they were told to go out there by people who must have known the intelligence, therefore using these people, these administration people to deceive and mislead unless they were utterly stupid about what happened. we ought to find out who told ms. rice to go out and say that, who told carney to go out and say that, because we know it was ultimaterly false. it was complete a terrorist attack. >> sean: here's the problem. this president still is blaming this youtube movie trailer that was released in july. he's still blaming them. we have the mother of one of our navy seals killed here, and she's demanding answers, as should the ambassador's family, the other navy seal and the other person. banghazi is a hotbed for terrorist training, pat. this is not brain surgery. >> sean, let me tell you about banghazi. the
. >> it's susan rice. >> sean: it's hillary clinton. >> let's go to susan rice. five days after this terrorist attack, she is booked on five national news shows and goes out and uses the exact terminology, spontaneous, not premeditated, not preplanned at all. they were told to go out there by people who must have known the intelligence, therefore using these people, these administration people to deceive and mislead unless they were utterly stupid about what happened. we ought...
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susan rice on sunday shows to defend the position. now we are learning it was a preplanned terrorist attack conducted on the anniversary of 9/11 and that it involved elements of al-qaida. look, you know, we are not going to be able to confront the challenges that face us in the middle east if we are not honest about them. anti-americanism is on the rise, the muslim brotherhood is in charge in egypt, and our relationship with israel is on the rocks. now as we turn the corner into the new year, because of the president's mismanagement of the budget, we are looking at devastating cuts to our defense budget. mitt romney will restore those cuts and make sure that america pursues a strategy of peace through strength and he'll make it unmistakably clear that we standby our allies like israel. bill: if this story plays out the way it appears what does it suggest what the administration's motives were in the early hours of this story? >> look, i think it's disappointing that it now appears the administration was attempting to mislead the ameri
susan rice on sunday shows to defend the position. now we are learning it was a preplanned terrorist attack conducted on the anniversary of 9/11 and that it involved elements of al-qaida. look, you know, we are not going to be able to confront the challenges that face us in the middle east if we are not honest about them. anti-americanism is on the rise, the muslim brotherhood is in charge in egypt, and our relationship with israel is on the rocks. now as we turn the corner into the new year,...
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susan rice should not resign. she's doing her job, and the reality is she's not out there on her own dime anyway. she's reflecting military policy and what they want to convey. >> ari, let me ask you, you worked in the bush white house, how should you handle putting out this kind of information. i'm sure you're criticized for being too far in front of your skis or for withholding information that the public should know about. >> the first 24 hours after an attack like that, you should not rush to conclusions. that first mountain of intelligence changes quickly. it's a scene no one can get their arms around yet and it takes time. i thought the administration for trying to down play it right from the start. the times square bomber they said had no connections and the underwear bomber as well but they did. they want to act and talk difference to they down play, but once something like this happens, what you really need to do is say we're gatoring the facts, it will take time, we don't rule anything in or out. here th
susan rice should not resign. she's doing her job, and the reality is she's not out there on her own dime anyway. she's reflecting military policy and what they want to convey. >> ari, let me ask you, you worked in the bush white house, how should you handle putting out this kind of information. i'm sure you're criticized for being too far in front of your skis or for withholding information that the public should know about. >> the first 24 hours after an attack like that, you...
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ambassador susan rice to resign. the obama team dill giving conflicting accounts of the white house response. martha: i'm martha maccallum. the romney campaign is joining this growing chorus of lawmakers. senator john mccain saying the administration's response was inept and ignorant and susan rice blaming it on a spontaneous protest was inexcusable. >> it's either willful ignorance or abysmal ignorance to think people come to spontaneous demonstrations with mortars and heavy weapons pant attack goes on for hours. bill: both sides are complaining. governor romney's team says the white house is still getting its story mixed up. >> reporter: democrats say republicans are politicizing the tragic attack that cost of life of four americans. the republicans say the white house is cover ugging up the details for political reasons. here is axlerod. >> the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. but when you are the responsible party, when you are the administration and you have a responsibility to act
ambassador susan rice to resign. the obama team dill giving conflicting accounts of the white house response. martha: i'm martha maccallum. the romney campaign is joining this growing chorus of lawmakers. senator john mccain saying the administration's response was inept and ignorant and susan rice blaming it on a spontaneous protest was inexcusable. >> it's either willful ignorance or abysmal ignorance to think people come to spontaneous demonstrations with mortars and heavy weapons pant...
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ambassador to the united nations, susan rice. this is all over the way the white house responded to the deatdeaths of those four americs killed at our u.s. consulate in libya. fresh fallout tonight. congressman peter king, republican from new york, heads the powerful house homeland security committee, saying rice must step down because the account she gave in the days and hours following the attack was plain wrong. here he is earlier today on fox. >> either ambassador was deliberately misleading the american people or she showed and demonstrated such a lack of mr. king says several people with the administration. so did the intelligence change, then, days after the attack, or what? >> well, as you said, fox news has sources that say intelligence officials knew within a day, one day, that it was a terror attack. a spokesman for the director of national intelligence, though, says the information about the attack did evolve over time, but didn't say how long it took. ambassador rice spoke five days after the attack, and congressman
ambassador to the united nations, susan rice. this is all over the way the white house responded to the deatdeaths of those four americs killed at our u.s. consulate in libya. fresh fallout tonight. congressman peter king, republican from new york, heads the powerful house homeland security committee, saying rice must step down because the account she gave in the days and hours following the attack was plain wrong. here he is earlier today on fox. >> either ambassador was deliberately...
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rice is somebody who is often mentioned. now, this recent flap over libya and what the united states said or did not say about the situation there might have damaged her prospects a little bit. we'll have to watch that one, on the romney side robert zoellick, former world bank president and richard haass, president of the council of foreign relations mention there had and treasury secretary we talked about some of the names for the obama cabinet starting with the obama side, jack lew, former white house chief of staff, he's most easily confirmed here. erskine bowles is somebody a lot of liberals are worried about in washington, they think maybe if obama picks bowles for secretary of the treasury that signals he's willing to do a deal that he was not willing to do in his first term. lael brainard, undersecretary of treasury for international affairs, recently dispatched to china. sheryl sandberg is an interesting one. i want to come back to her. let's do the romney cabinet picks and we'll come back to sheryl sandberg, julia h
rice is somebody who is often mentioned. now, this recent flap over libya and what the united states said or did not say about the situation there might have damaged her prospects a little bit. we'll have to watch that one, on the romney side robert zoellick, former world bank president and richard haass, president of the council of foreign relations mention there had and treasury secretary we talked about some of the names for the obama cabinet starting with the obama side, jack lew, former...
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susan rice the u.n. ambassador said it started as a demonstration about that video, and then involved other elements, who joined spontaneously. it's been shifting ever since. the president initially called it an act of terror. he has not done so since then but his spokesman has said since then that it is obviously self-evidently an act of terror, and now this statement from the spokesman for the director of national intelligence, who says in part, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with, or sympathetic to, al qaeda. >> can i ask you, susan rice, she's under fire from peter king. of course he's a republican congressman. he's been calling for her resignation, saying she hasn't been forthcoming with the truth. so what does the white house say about that? >> they did put out a spokesman in defense of ambassador -- statement in defense of ambassador susan rice yesterday. it stems from a couple of sundays ago. she was on some of the sunday shows, including "meet the press
susan rice the u.n. ambassador said it started as a demonstration about that video, and then involved other elements, who joined spontaneously. it's been shifting ever since. the president initially called it an act of terror. he has not done so since then but his spokesman has said since then that it is obviously self-evidently an act of terror, and now this statement from the spokesman for the director of national intelligence, who says in part, we do assess that some of those involved were...
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i think susan rice was forthcoming with you. adifferent information has come in and therefore the story has changed. in the current political environment it is made out to be this is distortion or as laura said they are vulnerable on this. if you look at the polls, the american people are saying what is going on over in the middle east and now more and more americans saying we are not sure about how president obama's approach to the muslim world has worked and i think the romney campaign therefore things we can gain traction on this issue. >> there is a record, right? there is a record in iraq. >> and the issues in the campaign. >> chris: i want to move to one last question. we have a couple of minutes left. benjamin netanyahu's speech to the u.n. if nothing else will be remembered for his looks like a cartoon bomb drawing the red line. some experts read the speech as actually softening the approach to obama. he said he appreciates the obama administration stance towards iron and seemed to be putting off any possible attack agai
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when you look at the fact, five or six days afterwards, you had susan rice going on all of these talk shows, sunday talk shows with the same line. it's the video. spoken taken -- spontaneous. first of all, why is the american ambassador talk being embassies and consulates, because that's not her line of expertise. and for her to talk about coordinated attacks, she is not a member of the department of defense. it should have been a state department person, hillary clinton, or it should have been leon panetta. >> steve: why was she selected to go out and say the same thing over and over on all the shows and not hillary clinton? >> i think it came down to the short straw. of who had to go out and sell the line. she did a horrible job. >> eric: james clapper saying, oops. we may have screwed up and he's the director of national intelligence. right? >> we still then have a problem with our intelligence gathering systems. but it still comes back to the president who is supposed to be getting these intelligence briefings and up with dates every single day and make the decisions. he's the com
when you look at the fact, five or six days afterwards, you had susan rice going on all of these talk shows, sunday talk shows with the same line. it's the video. spoken taken -- spontaneous. first of all, why is the american ambassador talk being embassies and consulates, because that's not her line of expertise. and for her to talk about coordinated attacks, she is not a member of the department of defense. it should have been a state department person, hillary clinton, or it should have been...
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who programmed susan rice? she only has one superior, that is secretary of state. carney has three superiors, chief of staff and head in sa and president of united states. i think you have a conspiracy to get by the administration and to make sure that no one says there has been attacks during barack obama's tenure. what gets me, the top intelligence committee comes out oh, yeah, this was a preplanned terrorist attack. we spent $60 million for these folks. are you telling me they just learned this? where it gets to the media, back in the nixon days, they would have been all over this from day one following it up. these folks, many of them, not all of them and not all on the left, they are in the tank for barack obama culturally, socially, politically, ideologically and they are part of the same community. as someone mentioned at white house correspondents dinner it's like a justin beiber rally. >> your clarity is repression. [ laughter ] >> i thank you so much. there are not many people. msnbc lost one of the few rationale voices they had over there. i'm glad you a
who programmed susan rice? she only has one superior, that is secretary of state. carney has three superiors, chief of staff and head in sa and president of united states. i think you have a conspiracy to get by the administration and to make sure that no one says there has been attacks during barack obama's tenure. what gets me, the top intelligence committee comes out oh, yeah, this was a preplanned terrorist attack. we spent $60 million for these folks. are you telling me they just learned...
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susan rice had to be aware of that. did they just take something handed to them -- bill: you haven't called for her resignation, have you? >> yes i have. i did call for susan rice' resignation. she was the face that was put out by the administration to defend its policies. she is our ambassador to the u.n. which makes her in many cases our ambassador to the world. she was put out there. there has to be accountability when sufficient a grievous, grievous error has been made in this case. whether she was put out there to audition to be secretary of state, whether or not she believed what she was saying, whether or not she was mistaken somebody has to pay the price, there has to be consequences. she is the one that was out there, i believe it should be her. very smart and able person, again such a serious error it has to be accountability. bill: heavy charges. peter king, than that you for your time we will see where it goes. martha: the recent spike in insider attacks known as green on blue attacks by afghan security forc
susan rice had to be aware of that. did they just take something handed to them -- bill: you haven't called for her resignation, have you? >> yes i have. i did call for susan rice' resignation. she was the face that was put out by the administration to defend its policies. she is our ambassador to the u.n. which makes her in many cases our ambassador to the world. she was put out there. there has to be accountability when sufficient a grievous, grievous error has been made in this case....